. >> but you need to tell barack obama that. >> i will. but i tell you what, what he hasn't told us is how you take a $5 trillion tax cut in this economy and then spend an additional $1 million to $2 million on defense spending, expand the military by 100,000 troops, and pay for it without cutting -- without costing the middle class. which he hasn't told us that. and all he says is we'll tell you later. >> what's the most significant law barack obama has proposed for his second term? >> well, for the second term he's been focused on jobs. >> no, no, no. >> wait a minute now. the american jobs act is a legitimate proposal. that is based primarily around infrastructure, which republicans and democrats have traditionally agreed on. and if you go to the facts, it kept the country from going into a great depression. >> did it really? >> oh, yes, it did. under your guy, george bush, we lost 3.5 million jobs in the last -- >> hold on. >> let him finish. >> just finish the point and then i'll go to joe. >> barack obama has produced more net privat